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CC hatchet job

Andrew "hatchet job" Orlowski of UK's The Register is at it again, this time with yet another wildly uninformed blast at Creative Commons. How many errors does Mr. Orlowski toss out? Let's start with these ...

"The use of an irrevocable Commons license, which effectively ends any hope of the artist being compensated by the creative industries, doesn't seem fair or sensible for most readers."

Wrong. Creative Commons licenses may be revoked at any time.

"Issuing the material under a reuse license may earn them a pat on the back from an expensive American law school, but it pretty much guarantees they won’t be compensated."

Wrong. In fact, the grassroots media talent agency I've just formed will prove that's not so.

"This Commons just isn't creative."

Wrong. Only someone who willfully ignores the wealth of creative material released under CC licenses would pen such an embarrassing comment. Check out Flickr, Ourmedia or any of scores of other sites for first-rate images, music, video and audio released under Creative Commons licenses.

"I can change my mind, of course, but that's because I haven't signed over my rights under an irrevocable license. (And very few people tagging their work with Creative Commons licenses seem to realize that they're irrevocable)."

Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Will we see a correction? Not from the likes of Mr. Orlowski.

August 29, 2005 at 10:49 PM in Digital rights & copyright | Permalink | Comments (5) | Bookmark this entry on del.icio.us | blog comments on this post (1)

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Comments

I simply can't understand why the blogosphere keeps feeding the troll. Don't you have any forum experience, people? A troll feeds on attention. Just ignore him!

Posted by: Ervin | Aug 30, 2005 10:26:56 PM

Perhaps. But he's a staff writer for a major UK publication, not your everyday troll. :~)

Posted by: JD Lasica | Aug 30, 2005 10:31:41 PM

In what sense are you using "revocable"? I assume TrollBoy is using it in the sense that cc.org itself uses it, either in the legal code as "Licensor reserves the right to release the Work under different license terms or to stop distributing the Work at any time; provided, however that any such election will not serve to withdraw this License" or more clearly on /about/licenses/fullrights as "Every license [...] is not revocable" meaning that if you release something as by-sa, then no matter what you decide later, anyone who got a copy under that license can continue redistributing under that license for the duration of your copyright as long as they continue to comply with the license in effect when they obtained their copy.

So, what sort of revocation do you mean, that is allowed?

Posted by: Phil Ringnalda | Aug 31, 2005 12:03:22 AM

Except it is you, not him who is wrong.

"Wrong. Creative Commons licenses may be revoked at any time."

No it can't. The CC license is perpertual, the only way the work lisenced to a party under a CC license ceases to be lisenced to them is either a) breach of contract, or b) expiry of copyright.

And I quote:
"Subject to the above terms and conditions, the license granted here is perpetual (for the duration of the applicable copyright in the Work)." (Section 7b)

"Wrong. In fact, the grassroots media talent agency I've just formed will prove that's not so."

Erm, how do you propose to convince people to pay for something that the lisence guarantees their right to distribute free? Since you have no proof at the moment, I'm going with Andrew's interpretation.

"Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong."

You're the one who is wrong. You should have actually read the lisence you are apparently using before you posted this.

Will we see a correction? Not when I can follow this rhetorical question with an inflamatory statement.

Posted by: Chris Davies | Aug 31, 2005 10:07:08 AM

Not just a troll indeed - he was on NPR one day giving his expert opinion on a topic.

Posted by: TY | Aug 31, 2005 2:26:46 PM

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