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When the studios won't give permission
Earlier today, Larry Lessig asked me for a pointer to the Hollywood movie studios' response to my request to use a few seconds of their films for a home movie project I was making with my 5-year-old — not for posting on the Web, just for showing off to family or friends.
As I wrote in Darknet, four of the studios refused outright, two refused to respond, and the seventh wobbled (see below).
This is the quandary millions of us face today: The Hollywood studios demand that we ask for permission to borrow from their works — and then they deny our requests as a matter of course.
Here is the paper and electronic trail of my correspondence with the Hollywood studios:
1. Walt Disney Co..
Oh, this one's a classic! I asked to use 30 seconds from a certain well-known 1964 film. Stephanie Martinelli, clearance administrator for Disney’s Corporate Legal Department, wrote in part:
It is difficult to respond to your request, since we certainly understand your worthwhile intentions. Unfortunately, however, I am afraid we are going to have to deny your request to include footage from MARY POPPINS in your home video project, as requested. Due to the growing number of requests that we are receiving from individuals, school groups, churches, corporations and other organizations that wish to use clips from our productions as part of their video projects and other similar uses, we have had to establish a general policy of non-cooperation with requests of this nature. Unfortunately, we simply do not have the staff necessary to oversee and review all of the details of each specific request that we receive in order to determine whether the request uses fall within acceptable guidelines or whether talent, music or film clip re-use payments to those featured in the footage and other legal clearances would be necessary to obtain before permission for requests of this nature can be granted.
See the full letter (above).
2. Universal Studios
Universal directed me to their website request form at universalclips.com. The form allows a maximum of a 500-character description of the work and 1,500 characters for your request. (1,500 characters, not words.)
The "Target Media" categories included "Commercial DVD" or "Educational DVD" (for schools), but there was no choice for amateur movie-makers or for parents simply wanting to make a home DVD. Still, I was able to submit license request 7879.
A week later, Universal Studios Media Licensing denied my request to use 39 seconds from the film The Mummy for inclusion in a home movie my son and I were making about ghosts. In a letter, representative Roni Lubliner wrote in part:
If you want a licensing agreement from us to use the footage, you would be obligated to pay the appropriated license fees which would be $900 for each 15 seconds. If you go through this process, you would be protected against any potential lawsuits. Otherwise, I would recommend that you remove the footage from your DVD.
3. Warner Bros.
Warner responded to my request to use two 10-second snippets from the 1988 film Daffy Duck’s Quackbusters and a 15-second clip from the 1948 film The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Marlene Eastman, director of Clip & Still Licensing, wrote in part:
Please be advised, Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. does not wish to license film clips for use in your personal movies. With respect to lifting material from a DVD or VHS, we do not permit anyone to lift material from a film print, DVD or VHS tape, nor do we allow our material to be edited or altered in any way.
Here is the Ourmedia page and the denial.
A historical footnote: the 57-year-old Treasure of the Sierra Madre is based on a novel by a German anarchist whose point was to satirize the gold fever that Warner now exemplifies.
4. Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corp.
Fox denied my request to use 45 seconds from the film Ice Age for a home movie, writing: “Fox has reviewed your request and does not approve the use of any Fox copyrighted materials.”
See this on Ourmedia's media page or the one-page fax here.
5. Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment
When I asked studio president Benjamin S. Feingold about splicing a few seconds from his company’s movie Rudy for a personal home movie, he said:
We do have a problem with that. It’s intellectual property. There’s blood, sweat and tears behind it. Financial remuneration is required [and] to have people cutting and slicing up your products is not fair.
But then the head of his legal department told me that I was allowed to borrow a few seconds after all. It's fair use, she said.
6. MGM
MGM declined to answer my request to use 10-second snippets from the 1996 film "All Dogs Go to Heaven" and the 1965 film “Beach Blanket Bingo." Here is the Ourmedia page along my written request to MGM Clip+Still Licensing.
7. Paramount
Paramount declined to answer my written request to use, for a home movie project, 10 seconds from the 1994 film “Forrest Gump”: the scene in which Tom Hanks as Forrest Gump says, “Life is like a box of chocolates ... you never know what you’re gonna get.”
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July 8, 2005 at 07:55 PM in Digital rights & copyright | Permalink
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Comments
One has to wonder why you can't make your movies without all these snippets from everyone else's works? Is it perhaps troubling that being expressive in this manner requires them as a crutch?
Posted by: anonymous | Jul 12, 2005 10:07:24 AM
To anonymous -- Does Disney using public domain folktales as the basis for many of their films constitute using them as a crutch?
And I think he *can* make his movies without them, but he would like to leaven them with the snippets in question, much in the manner of novelists quoting great poets and artists in their fiction.
Methinks thou dost protest too much.
Also, given that permission was not granted, I doubt the clips will be used.
Posted by: Joe | Jul 13, 2005 5:05:56 PM
Does Disney using public domain folktales as the basis for many of their films constitute using them as a crutch?
This is not a valid argument. You can use the public domain folktales just as easily as Disney can. You are not asking Disney permission to use the folktales, but rather the animation and voices they created.
Posted by: Steven | Jul 13, 2005 11:57:30 PM
You doubt the clips will be used -- are you kidding?
Nobody can stop JD from splicing whatever he wants to his heart's content inside his own home. Asking for permission was really a ruse in the first place, to show that it's virtually impossible to obtain, even if it's a Fair use context. I'd like to see them try to enforce it by spying on what each of us does on our homes. It's just another sad example of corporate copyright holders being out of touch with reality.
Posted by: Chuck Olsen | Jul 14, 2005 4:31:46 AM
It's just another sad example of corporate copyright holders being out of touch with reality.
I think it has less to do with their grasp of reality and more to do with their greed.
Posted by: Jack | Jul 14, 2005 5:23:54 AM
Steven: The comparison is completely valid. All he's saying is that the "crutch" crack was silly and doesn't stand up.
That is aside from the fact that we're talking about a 5 year old, I'm sorry if I don't hold children up to the same creative standards.
Granted, all of the movies in question are pretty terrible, but isn't it amusing. JD's 5-year-old would be breaking the law if they helped with this. I used to draw mickey mouse when I was a kid, and I didn't even buy a coloring book. Lock me up.
Posted by: Phil | Jul 14, 2005 10:04:57 AM
Disney has hardly had an original idea at all. 90% of their stories come from books or stories already written. What about the unanimated stories? The only creativity they use their is to figure out which actor or actress to play each part. Then how they can completely ruin the original story by leaving out the best parts and adding horribly wrong parts that were never there.
Posted by: Jamie | Jul 14, 2005 1:40:48 PM
Don't ask, don't tell. They don't need to know.
Posted by: Jared | Jul 15, 2005 8:02:52 PM
First of all, why are you even bothering to ask for permission? You're doing this in the privacy of your own home, with your kids, and I assume to show to friends and family. Are you afraid that someone will call the copyright infringement police on you once they see your home video projects?
Second, the biggest reason you can't get clearance was just outlined in my first paragraph. What company is going to want to give clearance to someone making home movies with their products when they could be getting paid up to $900 for 15 seconds by large companies who are likely to show to a wide audience? Most corporations are quite happy if they can see some way of getting a bit of advertising of their product, and they're not gonna get that with someone making home movies with his kids.
We all love having our backs scratched.
Posted by: Tercelly | Jul 18, 2005 2:35:52 PM
Jared,
Your missing the point in asking permission. Much of what Disney has created was based on existing stories. Through fair use, they were able to sample works and make money from it. Now they are trying to re-write history and take credit for coming up with everything. They have exteneded copyright law through lobbying to protect their "long term investment" Mickey Mouse (Trademark). Innovation is not what Disney is about. They want you to believe it is thier magic kingdom. We know it's built on the backs of creative people who are erased from history.
Posted by: Lewis | Jul 19, 2005 8:27:06 AM
Remix culture comes in two flavors: We can freely remix our own creations with the creations of others who give permission, chiefly through Creative Commons licenses. See the ccmixter site for some great examples of this:
www.ccmixter.org
But that accounts for less than 1% of the mediasphere, and people want to be able to borrow from the culture around them. Young people especially are heading full-throttle into the remix world, taking snippets of the media culture to create something new. That could mean borrowing images or clips from a TV show, a Hollywood movie, a musical work, a videogame, and transforming it into something new.
That's legitimate, in my view.
Most of what we create can be done without borrowing from other audiovisual works. But as any filmmaker knows, making use of a well-known visual element or musical score can evoke an emotional reaction.
I believe there's a huge distinction we need to make between creating such works for commercial purposes (where permission should be sought) and creating such works for the purpose of artistic expression.
Posted by: JD | Aug 16, 2005 12:57:53 PM
i dont want comments i want to tell you i have agood story to make amovie to hollywood i mean what i say pleas give me one chance to tell you the story . thank you
Posted by: jehad | Sep 4, 2005 9:56:43 AM
I have a question, actually. Would anyone know how to contact a live person at Disney about permissions for a Miramax movie? I've come to find out (after much research) that they own and distribute Miramax, and I need to ask permission to use a film still from The Grifters.
If anyone out there could assist me, I'd be much obliged.
Thank you!
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